post-ponycow ([info]audrawilliams) wrote,
2004-04-19 14:07:00
Oh, and in case anyone cares, Curves Gym is owned and operated by a pro-life-deadbeat-dad. Lots of the club's profits go to fake pregnancy crisis centres.

Also: the combination of being anti-choice, while not paying child support? That's uber-classy.

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[info]ladykutenay

April 19 2004, 10:22:22 UTC 8 years ago

Because we all know women can't lift REAL weight.

Wow, before I only found them conceptually irritating. Good to know they're downright irritating.

[info]jwithington

April 19 2004, 10:32:38 UTC 8 years ago

Re: Because we all know women can't lift REAL weight.

I haven't checked them out, but aren't they very women-positive in practice? My sister has started working out there and it's been awesome for her.

I was considering working for the one down the street (just because it is so close--about a 2 minute walk. I could visit my puppy during lunch!), though having a male receptionist might not be the atmosphere they are looking for.

Jim

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[info]jwithington

April 19 2004, 10:22:37 UTC 8 years ago

whats a fake crisis center?

[info]fromaway

April 19 2004, 10:35:38 UTC 8 years ago

They advertise to pregnant women with ads that say only "Pregnant? Need Help?" or something like that, leading the women to believe that they are real clinics/crisis centres. When those women visit them, they don't tell them what their options really are, or they give them lots of scary (and factually incorrect) anti-choice propaganda, or they try to convert them, or all sorts of dodgy stuff like that.

Audra probably can explain this a lot better than I can. I'm not entirely up on the details.

Also, on the gym, ew. Major ew.

[info]third_wave_bec

April 19 2004, 10:34:08 UTC 8 years ago

Broken link, for me anyway.

A fake crisis centre is a place that purports to help you with your pregnancy "crisis" but has a pro-life agenda that they do not explicitly advertise (but which, IMHO, can almost always be surmised by the subtle hints in their posters, tv commercials, etc).

[info]jwithington

April 19 2004, 10:35:05 UTC 8 years ago

So it isn't a pretend one, it's just got a hidden agenda.

That's what i figured, but wasn't sure.

[info]ladykutenay

April 19 2004, 10:42:50 UTC 8 years ago

It's certainly pretend in that they are CREATING a crisis, rather than helping you get through one.

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[info]peregrin8

April 19 2004, 10:47:19 UTC 8 years ago

it's often a pretend clinic, in that they don't actually do abortions there at all -- sometimes they only have the kind of pregnancy test you can buy in the drugstore, plus videos like "Silent Scream."

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[info]third_wave_bec

April 19 2004, 10:37:57 UTC 8 years ago

Never mind, it's not your link, it's their crappy MS products.

[info]audrawilliams

April 19 2004, 10:59:02 UTC 8 years ago

What subtle hints? I'm not being snotty. Because the ones I've seen have always just been like "Pregnant and don't know what to do? Call us."

[info]cosmorific

April 19 2004, 11:53:14 UTC 8 years ago

For starters, there's the fact that they mention "free counseling and pregnancy testing," but never what options, if any, they plan to offer you after you take said test.

Boston: we're liberal, but we're also Catholic.

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[info]emiline

April 19 2004, 10:36:14 UTC 8 years ago

I just read an article about this somewhere recently and I can't remember where. But it didn't mention the non-payment of child support and jail sentence. What a freakin' jerk.

[info]audrawilliams

April 19 2004, 11:28:08 UTC 8 years ago

Bitch Magazine?

[info]emiline

April 19 2004, 13:12:43 UTC 8 years ago

That would be it! Thanks.

[info]peregrin8

April 19 2004, 10:47:42 UTC 8 years ago

Also: the combination of being anti-choice, while not paying child support? That's uber-classy.

Seriously!!

[info]sharolyn

April 19 2004, 10:50:27 UTC 8 years ago

I knew there was a reason I hate Curves.

[info]audrawilliams

April 19 2004, 11:00:42 UTC 8 years ago

Yeah. That was my reaction, too.

[info]bonjourananas

April 19 2004, 10:56:44 UTC 8 years ago

my dad used to work in support enforcement and dealt with a lot of dead-beat dads. in fact, his dept was the only in the gov't of nfld that was "making money". (i.e. bringing it in from people who owed before paying it out to people who were owed money). so i've heard all about them. and i've got to say - i don't care how many times they find god/jesus/[insert deity here], they're still dead beats.

and um, if you don't support you're own children, how the hell can you tell me that abortion is wrong? *cough*hypocrite*cough* that guy is a jerk. i don't care how woman positive/friendly his joint is.

[info]justamy

April 19 2004, 11:31:24 UTC 8 years ago

i think he's a jerk, too. but i like curves. dilemmas dilemmas.

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[info]cosmorific

April 19 2004, 11:51:23 UTC 8 years ago

Go your dad! All deadbeats deserve a royal pimp-slapping. If not upside the head, then at least upside the wallet.

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[info]cosmorific

April 19 2004, 11:46:22 UTC 8 years ago

Lots of the club's profits go to fake pregnancy crisis centres.

Ah, so that's who's been paying for all those ads on the T!

Attention all Boston-area women: Healthworks is a much better gym, and doesn't give money to people who want to turn you into a baby machine.

Anonymous

April 19 2004, 13:25:12 UTC 8 years ago

Grr...

Another thing to consider about the "fake" pregnancy counselling places is that some tell women they're on a waiting list for an abortion, or other "needed test", until they're too far along in pregnancy to abort the child. They often use dishonest tactics to stall pregnant girls, and that kind of deceit turns my stomach. I know this, because one of my Catholic relatives boasted to me about how they do it at the place near him. Bleah.

[info]gryphonmage

April 20 2004, 10:20:15 UTC 8 years ago

YOu know, people are making an awful lot of assumptions, and totally fialing to consider the source.

a) it says he failed to pay child support. not that he is still failing. nor does it clarify as to whether he paid redress, what the situation was, etc etc etc, or address his current relationship withhis children, so to judge him by that is kindof unfair. People change. I'm not supporting men who don't pay child support, but you can't say anything about the person he is now based on a mention in an article that fails to go any further in depth than that.

b) The article was in Christianity Today. It's hardly going to talk about abortion in a positive way, regardless of what the clinics are about.

[info]audrawilliams

April 20 2004, 11:58:02 UTC 8 years ago

He also gives money to Abstinence Curriculum Initiatives. Whatevs.

[info]gryphonmage

April 20 2004, 13:42:34 UTC 8 years ago

hmmm don't know much abstinence curriculums, but I don't see the problem with supporting abstinence. so far, all I've seen is thathe gives money to support causes he believes in.

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